on alcoa. meantime let's bring in gary kaminsky who's standing by in englewood cliffs, that magical place we know as our headquarters. >> e.c. >> e.c., gary kaminsky-u heard joe and pete asparring a bit but my question to you -- >> first thing is welcome back from the vacay. and second thing is pete, that's an awesome tan. and third thing, karen is right. i've been -- for 20 years alcoa has always had an issue. you talk about every market cycle, it always has an issue every quarter. >> all right. so is this different this time around? >> it is. >> the last earnings season alcoa really started the start of some sort of a market correction. do you think we're going to see the same sort of trading this time around? >> i do not. and if you recall back in january, melissa, i thought that the nasdaq was ripe for a correction right after earnings season. if you remember, where we were this time january, you had good earnings, bad stock action, and then you had that nice...