that's another way of saying the little guy is doomed. you're one of the little guys, are you doomed? >> not at all. and we're actually glad to be some of the little guys. if you think about it, we're like the small american business. we're innovators, we're niche players. and we really drive the marketplace. we set the new standards. we've done that with alternatives six years ago. the big guys are now wanting to be us. >> your fund family, your group, specializes in alternative investments, not just long only. long short, real estate, boutique kinds of funds. is that the future of the fund business? will they all be copying you in three years? >> i sure think so. maybe not three, but i'd give it five definitely. we're starting to see some of the big ones come along looking at alternatives. the truth of the matter is america doesn't like to lose money. they want funds to go up when others are going down. they want what they call low correlation or zero correlation. so long/short...

facebook with a 10-foot poll. and then steve rat ner, he says investors shouldn't buy individual stocks ever. i'm sue herera with simon hobbs down at the nyse. and tyler mathisen is at a special mutual fund conference in washington. we'll hear from ty coming up. but first, breaking news on greece. the third greek leader this week to try to form a government says he's closing in on a deal. but this greek drama is far from finished. michelle caruso-cabrera just finished speaking exclusively with greece's new most popular leader. but he would not be included in this particular government. michelle. >> no. it is confusing. the man i spoke with this morning is alexis tsipras. we care about what he has to say because now according to dow jones, there are new polls today showing he is the front-runner if there are new elections in june. tsipras caused turmoil in the financial markets this week when he said in his opinion the greek bailout program is null and void. that led market...