finance ministers sit down today in brussels. julia is in brussels with her thoughts and the latest. hi. >> reporter: good morn ing. as you said, the euro group working group trying to thrush out the details. v.a.t. on interest sales, that was one of the key election promises from the government. it may seem like a strange request. it is something they promise they are fighting for that. the big thing, of course, the public sector reforms cutting down the bloated public sector. one of the agreements was 25,000 civil servants to go on administrative leave and ultimately lose their jobs this year if they can't be transferred to other places. that apparently got an agreement among the troika and the greek officials over the weekend. there are just a few details still being thrashed out we've seen. ultimately what's -- what's at stake here is an 8.1 billion euro sum of money. 4.8 billion euros to come from the eu. 1.8 billion to come from the imf. ultimately they're expected to get this...