and also with us mario gabelli. chairman and ceo of gamco investors. this is a fun fact. this is mario's 96th appearance right here on "squawk box." that's amazing. no wonder we're like this. 96 -- except for that crumpy bag. >> somebody calculated you have 15,000 hours on "squawk box." and i calculated 150 hours. so i'm a one percenter. >> were you on the first week? or close to it? >> was it fnn or something? probably. >> here you are still. you're a survivor. there's a reason for that. >> he's thrived. >> he's had a lot of success. >> look. because we basically have a philosophy, we're buying a piece of a business.