and there are still millions of them out there. >> where do you draw the line? you open the phone for this case and then how about another case where there wasn't an actual terrorist attack, and we're not sure it is terrorism, but they say maybe we can save one more life if we open this -- >> deliverables on paper. >> every time they have to open the phone. >> if you want to change the law, go to congress, change the law. for apple, if you're thinking about the future, you make phones unbreakable even by themselves. once they code them, that's it. you don't have the debate, we stop talking about it. this conversation is not helping this stock. this is not what you want to be known for, fighting and going to war with congress and the government. that's not great for a company. >> we're going to leave it there. kevin, more on this and other topics later. sit right where you are. >>> chinese insurance company enbang upping their bid to acquire starwood hotels to roughly $13.2...