>> would it be better to pay someone else to do it? >> well, they do work with microsoft to a certain extent. >> it's a catch 22 for companies. they need to have proprietary technology much of that will be software. some of it they have to build to own setups they don't build it with all their own stuff. >> so you want me to buy atlasian and the symbol is team >> yeah. >> i have a project. >> you're in a broader market space there. >> who are their customers >> their customers are developers, software developers primarily. although they've risen up in the organization to -- in the collaboration space. they recently did a deal with slack which you probably saw where they traded some of their collaboration assets and gave them to slack. so they're a very agile company. if you're a developer, it's called development operations or dev-ops. a big new space. if you're at goldman sachs, you want to give the best tools to your programmers you want to make sure they're dealing with = and...

them to slack. so they're a very agile company. if you're a developer, it's called development operations or dev-ops. a big new space. if you're at goldman sachs, you want to give the best tools to your programmers you want to make sure they're dealing with = and faster. you want to make sure they're secure lots of private companies here i'm on a board in d.c. called s sonotype here's a good example of how this is interactive. i was a software programmer years ago and used to write lines of code. now i would go to an open source repository probably the one governed by sonotype and download it together last year, 94 billion software components were downloaded 94 billion that's how much software is being created and how rapidly it's being created and atlasian sits on top of that