>> that's not anything. >> okay fxi snore one. 30 plus odd thousand of those bought upsfd you say okay these are numbers we see every day you can't deny the numbers. >> i'm gichg you the option player who would look at somebody boying short dated options for 2 cents and say that's real commitment china. >> some out to january by the way not frgt is short-term. >> i disagree. >> i'm not trying to push your buttons i'm just saying the numbers there. >> i find bigger issue here you talk to vix at 14.5 process doesn't matter. >> 16. >> what's the data we are. >> i understand your point but we have to -- what is your bottom line foint you are trying to make. >> my bottom line is i think there is more issues going on with the chinese themselves than us in terms of economic situations. now, politically, we all know it's focused right on us and it's amazing to me we have a 16 vix right now that's a 1% move today -- or each and every single day we sit at 16 backup we're getting massive moves.