overhaul the safety net. joining us is ohio senator rob portman, a republican. and senator, it's good to see you today. thanks for being here. >> good morning, becky, thanks for having me on >> so let's start with the debt ceiling and a showdown that's taking place here. schumer and pelosi have said they are going to move legislation on this, mcconnell from the republican side just said forget it, you are not getting any support from us. i know a lot of us have kind of gotten enured to these debt ceiling talks. it's a crisis, it seems to get averted at the last minute, would you vote no on something to raise the debt ceiling which is basically agreeing to pay the bills that we have already bugged for this year the treasury secretary says we'll run out of money in october? >> yeah, it is eend of october so we're not up against it typically, we wait until we are up against it. so this is putting the cr, which is the september 30th deadline along with the deadline so it's