how they found out about all of this, about the mistakes that were made. isn't that a sign actually that the system is working? that they looked and said holy cow, we really messed up on this and we messed up on that? >> no, the system is not working. americans were told by the chairman of the house intelligence committee that there were zero privacy violations, and we know that's not true. americans were assured by the president and others that the fisa court had significant oversight, and we've heard from the chief judge of the fisa court who says that's not true.

court who says that's not true. and americans have been told that their records have not been collected, that they had no data collected by the director of national intelligence, and we found out that wasn't true. it's important to understand that even if all of the procedures had been followed, there would still be a government violation of people's rights, a government violation of people's privacy under the fourth amendment of the constitution because the records of every american in the united states are being collected without any suspicion. >> let me move you to the