part of the team that -- >> the hannibal lecter team. we worked with him to develop a thing, and i just loved the -- human brian and trying to understand what makes a person do that. and the different sides of people and why. there's a really great script. an amazing director. and the great cast. and i worked with a producer, and lifetime does these movies really well. >> you killed eight women over five years. >> i don't, he does. >> he talks to feds, even gets annoyed with other people claiming credit to the murders. >> yeah. >> what did you learn about the mind of a serial killer? >> i learned a lot about him. >> it's based on a true story? >> yeah, he's jailed up in oregon. he'll be there until he's 118 at least. and i learned a lot. i mean, you could go on the internet, you can read a bunch of stuff about him. i read a bunch of documentaries. i also, his daughter wrote a book, and i looked at that.