honored him as a great leader. 2009, the naacp in los angeles give him an award as a great leader. they were about to give an award this year. >> you have to question the motives. go ahead. >> there's a poster they pointed up for this 100th anniversary. here's ha they said they were doing this for. he gave away, according to them, 2,000 to 3,000 tickets every game for poor children to be able to go to basketball. and they said this is a guy who has really reinvested in the neighborhoods. now, everything he has said, that's gotten him in trouble, was off of a tape -- >> right. >> -- to a girlfriend. >> there's no question. >> so we now live -- let me ask it this way. out of all the different team owners in the country, because up until that girlfriend released that tape, he would not have been somebody who said we have to -- are you willing to say tonight we can be sure if we get rid of sterling that there's not another owner who's a hidden bigot who some morning is going to have a...