i was on an airliner once at laguardia, a similar situation that happened just before we touched down. people were screaming on that airplane. >> you have this case in barcelona. there may be some similarities, albeit, different situations. in houston, another close call. this is the second time they've had a close call in just a couple of months. a singapore airlines jet and a delta airliner. a singapore jumbo jet, that came within 200 feet vertically is what we're told and also within more than half a mile horizontally. this is the second time this has happened. are there airports, at least we can say -- let's talk about just in the u.s. are there airports in the u.s. that are more prone to this kind of a problem? this seems to happen more and more often in houston. >> the big airports are a problem. the big airports near capacity are a problem and that's pretty much every one of them. some of them have fundamentally older school designs. boston logan is often cited for a lot of...