border with turkey. christopher harmer is a senior naval analyst, also joining us cnn military analyst colonel peter mansour who served as an executive office to general petraeus in iraq. can they take on forces successfully in iraq and do you think syrian rebel forces can do it across the border? >> well, it's much more likely that kurdish and iraqi forces will be successful in ejectingizeis from iraq. it's going to take a long time. we saw iraqi forces got overrun in a base near fallujah, the good news, at least they fought this time, they didn't just give up like they did in mosul in june. it's going to take time to train them, get better leadership in there. we're talking months and years, not just days or weeks. so this is going to be a long campaign. on the syrian side of the border, it's much more