to all activity and that there's no real legitimate function to get at information or that the safeguards aren't there, you know, then you have to say, well, what about ever collecting taxes or stopping child pornography or perhaps most importantly as terrorism moves from conventional approaches to nuclear and biological, who are you counting on to find that early and make sure it doesn't happen? so there are issues about safeguards. the u.s. government under j. edgar hoover and other cases did take this right of surveillance and not use it entirely tastefully, and so, you know, i think most people hope that the safeguards are appropriate so that the government isn't totally blind. >> the argument one could make is apple shouldn't be deciding this issue of privacy. yes, there should be privacy, the government should be very careful with this data, but those are decisions to be made by the elected representatives of government, not by a private company. >> well, even apple would...