decade we get the dominance of phil donahue and that is a maturation of women's issues and he seemed to talk to them in the audience and through the tv screen. >> i'm glad you called. kiss the kids. we'll be back in just a moment. >> if you look at the body of work we've had, you're going to see the '80s there. >> i'm not here to say you're wrong. but let's understand this. when you bring a moral judgment without knowing them, against them for the way that they look, they feel that confirms the reason for their rebellion, if that is what you want to call it. >> he believed that daytime television needed to talk about the ideas we were thinking about, the issues we were concerned about. >> i don't want to characterize his question, but why don't you get this fixed instead of doing this screwy stuff? >> there is not a single recorded case in history of any transsexual that ever, through psychological treatment, changed. it has never happened yet. >> and we were putting very important...

chicago company and a second city toronto company. the toronto one is the one that fueled the sc tv series that was syndicated and got to the states that way. >> thank you very much for that marvelous reception. i want to thank my supporters over there in the cesarean section. >> it is healthy to be an outsider. as a comedian, and canadians are outsiders but they are looking at the culture that is right next door to them. >> it was the type of comedy that had only been accessible if you got into the improv clubs in toronto or chicago. i had never seen anything like second city tv. >> james bridgeman, park dale. no, i'm sorry. >> it was far more conceptual humor because it didn't have to be performed in front of an audience. and the idea was it was this low-rent thing. by the seat of our pants kind of operation that give it an authenticity. >> now that our programming day has been extended -- >> where do you want me to put