every time or you got to bring up somebody else. but you can't really defend it in all -- you can't defend what the president of the united states just said. >> i don't care what he says to the russians. i mean, he's the president of the united states, if he wants to say that, barack obama wants to say whatever, if george bush says i have looked in his eyes. say it. >> i don't know what he would do that you would not defend.