watergate, during the time of the mid-70s and richard nixon, we thought things were moving fast then. if we had one big bombshell development in a week, maybe ten days, things were moving quickly. that rolled out over, what, a two-year period. this is all rolling out in a matter of days. every day, there's not one but two or three new developments. >> yeah. >> that tells you inside the white house that no matter what the appearance on the outside looking in is, there's chaos inside. there's also big split, different people with different views of what the president could do, should do in order to get out of it. >> let's talk about that. they're putting on a good face or not talking about it. sean spicer saying, you have to talk to the president's lawyer. but maggie haberman of the "new york times," interviewed the president a number of times, says she thinks the president is looking forward to the speckle of it, the show of it. do you believe it? >> this person has a lot of experience...