names are being considered. the names include abby lowell, whose previous clients include jack abramoff, the republican lobbyist who was embroiled in a corruption scandal back in 2005. and second of all, any change in attorney it's being signed off by kushner's current attorney jamie gorelick. she released this statement. she saidish "after the apoichlt our former partner robert mueller as special counsel we advised mr. kushner to obtain the independent advice of a lawyer with appropriate experience as to whether he should continue with us as counsel." so of course jamie gorelick was the law partner of bob mueller, who was named special counsel. so gorelick giving that advice to kushner to perhaps seek another opinion. anderson? >> it's not that unusual. these types of connections can be somewhat normal in washington legal circles, right? >> yeah, it's not uncommon. and if this situation does arise, there's sometimes an easy fix. jared kushner could easily acknowledge a possible...