>> we owe 20 trillion national debt. doubled under obama and we haven't done anything. >> "outfront" larry kudlow. the forecast more debt for economic output. in anyone's personal life, that would be disaster. >> the cbo, i have not studied this report, but slightly be low 2% growth. we don't believe that. our view is lower tax rates particularly business. we are going to pick up productivity in wages. now, i am not saying the government is sufficiently limited. i don't think it is. i would like to see a more modest role for government. and that has always been my view. i would take a somewhat larger deficit in order to finance larger growth in the economy. >> in 2009, when the cbo said the debt would reach 68 gdp. and now it is saying 109%. you weighed in on this and here is what you said joo. >> the doubling of the debt, the out-of-control spending. it is a fact. this is like a pinball machine on permanent tilt. this is like a completely out of align. the most unbalanced fiscal...

other than reich and moore switching sides. >> the trouble i had with the obama program is it was all spending. it was all spending. and most of it, was not spending for infrastructure, most of it was spending for welfare spending and social spending that is not a growth.