it's not just james comey. it's also patrick fitzgerald. those of us in the criminal defense business -- >> the prosecutor. >> two of the most despicable, december spiced, unethical prosecutors -- >> are you saying, you're talking about unfettered power and i want to talk more about that, but it is with reason. but first, are you saying he would pardon them? we're taco win, manafort, flynn. you're saying -- >> i have no idea. why would i know? i have no idea. he hasn't pardoned them yet, and he could have. so i'm saying that the lawyers for these people don't need to see a pardon for somebody else to figure out that the president has pardon power. they already know it. we learn it the first year in law school. >> so when you talk about his unfettered power, i want to ask you about that. first of all, i did mention the last three presidents for a reason, and that is, it is unusual to do it this way. there are plenty of pardons, we could go through everybody and say, what about that...