here it was and here's the exchange with jim and sarah. >> i thought i'd take a little bit die pregs about separation of families. many many of the criticisms raised in recent days, not fair, not logical. first, illegal entry into the united states is a crime. it should be, the persons who violate the law of our nation are subject to prosecution. if you violate the law, you subject yourself to prosecution. i would cite you to the apostle paul and his clear and wise companion romans 13 to obey the laws of the government because god has ordained the government for his purposes. orderly and lawful processes are good in themselves. consistent, fair application of law is in itself a good and moral thing. and that protects the weak. it protects the lawful.