needs to be met for judge kavanaugh to make it or not make it to the supreme court. >> it's the same situation we had 27 years ago, when clarence thomas had a similar situation, a woman, an academic coming forward and making the allegations. it was seen then that the senate republicans didn't address hill's allegations in a way that seemed fairly. you saw it in the following year, a huge wave election for female democrats. 27 years on we get a chance to see whether things have changed. whether we do have a more mature or more up-to-date way of engaging with the allegations, ensuring that people who are credible accusers are heard. and giving the accused a fair shake, if you like. >> and you mentioned the #metoo moment. the cultural moment we find ourselves post#metoo. i wonder if republicans are really going to be thinking that hard. what they need first and foremost is a republican supreme court justice. >> right. it would be interest iing to se. >> they have a short-term loss to...