had treaty after treaty and power after power. there was a genuine problem with the development of the euro, the organization we were in was changing in front of our eyes. i felt it was inevitable. i wanted for us to have a renegotiation and referendum to deal with them and they clearly have failed in that endeavor. >> tony blaire, your predecessor says the country is clearly divided and confused about what exactly it means to do brexit. is it hard? is it soft? that's why there should be a second referendum. do you agree? >> i think the first thing that ought to happen is for the prime minister to go back to brussels, to negotiate a deal for us to carry out the outcome of the referendum which is to leave and become as i put it friends and neighbors and partners with the european union but not members. i threw everything into the campaign for us to stay. but the result went another way. if we can't get that deal, we are then still after three years stuck. one of the ways of...