to me that's an effective argument he makes. >> i agree. i want to step back, if you're a viewer and getting to the race, which let's not forget most are. you are deeply poorly served by the debate. it got super in the process. a lot of conversations that is fixation on the filler buster. a lot of folks don't understand. folks were not well served by the debate. the formatt and questions. we didn't get into coronavirus. which is leading the head license. the question about bernie, he hit his points about what democratic socialism means to him. i do agree that this is a line of attack that will continue to come. when you think about where we stand in the conversation that we're having as a country about who we want to be president of the united states, i just don't know how much fear mongering about this issue will matter when you're talking to voters who are fatesing the fact they don't have access to good healthcare. worrying about whether or not the economy is left them behind and...