kasich, republican and former ohio state senator nina turner, a democrat, write this in part -- "no one should take a violence to advance their cause nor should anyone need to. we should all be able to turn to our system of justice to receive the protections we deserve. yes, we've got problems. our system can work if leaders have the will and courage to simply acknowledge the pain of injustice." and the governor and senator joining us now for this very important discussion here. senator turner, you and governor kasich make a case that communities can listen, they can learn, they can create peace, because you've done it in your state of ohio. tell us about this. >> we did, breanna, and thank you for having both of us. on the heels of the shooting are tamir rice a young boy shot within less than two seconds from police arriving on the scene, in t2004 right before thanksgiving and the governor and i had a conversation. i call the governor and said, govern governor, we have to...