apparently, you can cruise to the top of the i just love though that right now. the right is all of a sudden embracing the free press. i'm very excited about this as a journalist, i think it's wonderful that everyone, including donald trump is really pushing kamala harris to do this. i agree. i think she should do press conference. i think she showed sit down for an interview but you know, it's a little disingenuous for no other right to do that, is it ever beat donald trouble. >> do interviews with anybody. he went to the national association of black journalists and she didn't write that's not because he do a lot think interviews with the man amen corner at fox news? yes. no doubt about that, but he will sit down. he'll qubits with reporters. he does a lot more accessing that joe biden has done for the last four years, or kamala harris and she's become the nominee. >> but i want to get back to this question of is she doing enough to become her own candidate and not? joe biden's vice...