constitution. >> the smile is back. i think i know why, kevin, what's your thought? >> federal government is fat, dripping with fat, 100 years of never being scrutinized, never been examined, never looking for any efficiencies. finally, here's an individual that's willing to do it for free with

and figure out what i've done that was ineffective in the instance. isn't isn't an audit supposed to be? i'm going to take an assessment and then i'm going to decide the prudent course of action. why is it while i'm auditing, i'm getting rid of and then i'll figure out if it was a good idea that would that work in your business? >> yes. you can't be surgically precision. there's no way to be surgically precision in this. you have to cut more because you just don't know. there's no way to do it. remember, we've never audited government for 100 years. never done this before. you may not like it. >> tom doesn't think that's right. tom. what's your reaction to that? there's government is not. >> every agency, every agency of the federal government. it helps to know some things. if we're going to have this debate, every agency of the federal government