that's wrong. don't do that. we need to teach them what to do. if you're not going to do this, what are you going to do? how can you express yourself appropriately? how can you put in a program of inclusion where minorities or kids that are different can be included? but right now, there's a void. it's either do this or do nothing. >> say, don't say gay and not explain the whole concept of homophobia is ridiculous. >> here's what to say instead. here's what you're saying, that's what i said about empathy. you can't teach empathy but you can teach everything that leads to a child evolving. >> and that teaching has to be both in the schools and also in the home. >> it's not just one talk so you can say, okay, did that, so now we're proactive. no, you're not. you just started a dialogue, but now you need to continue it. >> we'll have final thoughts when we come back. we need directions to go to... pearblossom highway? it's just outside of lancaster. sure, i can download directions for...