it doesn't have to be this kind of triumphantalistriumphantalis. pakistan, iraq and other countries have suffered both from bin laden and george bush's war on terror which i hope president obama ends because it's time to close guantanamo and time to stop committing the injustices that we should be better than. because we must not descend to the levels -- >> mona -- >> can i jump in? >> before you do so, mona, you raised a host of issues there, that maybe we can revisit another day. hibah, respond how you reacted to what you saw at ground zero, either by being there, more likely given that you're in albuquerque, to watching it on tv. >> i have to say that when 9/11 happened, when i saw these scenes of muslims celebrating in the street, it was so horrific to me and it was completely distasteful. and i think like mona said, americans are better than this. we need to take a higher moral ground. we need to not celebrate death in this way and instead show people we are humbled by these