on the scene actually four years before in athens at the olympic games there where he attempted to swim in eight different events. so i knew that he had the capacity to be able to attempt to break my record. and i just knew it was a matter of time. if he just stayed healthy for the next four years, we obviously saw what he was able to do in beijing. i actually felt a tremendous relief. i mean, records dshl you heard the cliche. records are made to be broken. and why should my records be exclusive that you can't break my records? and it was just a matter of time that somebody would come along -- listen. i inspired somebody not even born to try to achieve a goal for himself, primarily, which is michael's goal. not mark spitz's goal to do the best he could. and in the process, my record got broken. why wouldn't i be proud? my accolade to the sport was the fact that he was able to do that. >> when i interviewed him, he's physically impressive. he had an aura about him of invincibility.