it doesn't exist and say that's unscientific because that's a fact. >> one of the most fundamental conservative views is that of believing pro-life believing that every life has value and worth. that's scientific because you know that biologically life begins at conception. that's irrefutable from a biological standpoint. you can argue the theology of it. you can argue the philosophy of it. you can't argue the biology of the beginning of life >> jon: i don't know that... i mean that's such a loaded... here's why i ask you because i never know who you are. i don't know if you're the nice grandfather who sits... >> i'm a wonderful grandfather jon: and talks to me very respectfully. there was a commercial that you made during the election that troubled me to some extent.