the point is everyone in america should celebrate this ruling. here not to celebrate this ruling is legal affairs editor for "slate," emily bazelon. emily, thanks so much for coming back to see us. ( applause ) isn't this wonderful news for oppressed minorities in the united states? >> like rich people. >> stephen: yes. the 1%. there's no minority smaller, and we are the ones who had our voices stifled by these campaign donation limitations. >> no, i don't think rich people are the ones who have had their voices stifled. we have plenty of influence of rich people in politics. >> stephen: not as much add wakd. that is what john roberts is saying, while we have influence not as much as we coltd possibly have. >> right, but for you, the rich people, to have all the influence you could possibly have, are you going to leave rest of us with no influence