travel by train from los angeles to san francisco and it was men with big sign freedom to kazakhstan. and i remember this because i was surprised that america knows something about kazakhstan. >> very few did. >> and there was sign, welcome, khrushchev. and he smiled it was very -- but also it was the discussion in the camp david that creating the different atmosphereecause it was two leaders, last leaders in united states and soviet union who were in the war and w knew the war. and my father even could not watch the movie about the war because he couldn't sleep after that because everything in this