state that have been lobbying in albany, lobbying our state senators. as you can see, our senator chuck schumer has been leader and advocate on immigration reform. our senator kristin gillibrand is very sympathetic and supporter of the dream act. we believe our efforts are not going unnoticed. we need more colleagues in the senate and congress to support people like gutierrez, chuck schumer and kirstin gillibrand and others so i feel like our efforts are being heard. >> just just follow-up on the numbers again. i spoke to an official at the white house this morning about those numbers and the one thing that stood out from what they said is, well, you also have to consider that some of those numbers were for the first part of the fiscal year '09 which, president bush was still in power, you know. obama only came in power in january. so that's their argument, some of those numbers reflect the outgoing bush administration. and also, the point about