>> caller: good morning, marc, john, greta politico of things, one is i seen you guys on other shows and one of the things that's fascinating to me is the country seems to be a state of dissidents, barack obama is the on prepared and unqualified to be president. john mccain is the longtime politician with experience and based on what you guys have said this morning to me the exact opposite, the reverse is true. barack obama seems to be hoping and change and all that but he seems to be a very savvy politician, brilliant strategic thinker and a very well-prepared and understands the issues and yet all of the buzz right now about sarah palin who mostly speaks and her vocabulary is mostly models love it and i haven't heard her say anything of substance in terms of public policy from the time she started

he is referring to the quote but came out on what he reed said in private about john heilemann, why don't you take that? >> guest: first in the authors node we refer to the notion we conducted our interview on deep background and then we say in a shorthand way what that meant which was basically as a word rights in the peace. the authors's note isn't complete in the sense it does not have a thorough description of all of the conversations we have with our sources which we had with every source we talk to. they would talk in great detail about how the interview we were about to conduct would be used and would go through a speech. there was no actual scrap there might have been where we would lead them through is a this is of the interview was going to go. this is how we can work and what isn't going to work. i can say that there is no case in which the way that we explain what we are going to do in the and we didn't live up to that agreement with any source in the