and on the democratic side we saw jan schakowsky and others come out in opposition on the entire plan, and durbin. so will be interesting to see if the floor ideas of caps and on a macrolevel continue to be part of the debate. >> i would like to add on. one as you can on deal with a deficit without dealing with health care long term. health care is the problem long term. and the sooner we get serious about it, the better. the affordable care act made some important steps but it is by no means the whole answer. so why do give the co-chairs some credit for at least not ducking on the issue. however, i do object to the specific proposals, particularly the ones that would cost shift more on to the beneficiaries because that doesn't do anything but lower the burden of health care and the economy from taxpayers on to sick people which is really regressive and