was there not only with sally hemings, but sally hemings' brother who was his cook and who had been trained in france to cook just like off the hook. right? now, at one point sally hemings' brother buys his freedom, but the deal is jefferson says you can buy your freedom, but you've got to train somebody else to cook for me before i let you go. which he did. now, he's in philadelphia at the same time as hercules. hercules had to see this going on. he had to, he of course knew that onie had escaped. so hercules at one point takes off. washington looks for him, never catches hercules. hercules is gone. again, we don't get these stories, right? now, another character said -- studied about in this period was paul jennings. and paul jennings was enslaved