>> it's my fault. it's fred's fault. >> fred? >> silverman. and the thing was that that was -- they were so nervous about it going out that they fed the pilots to the o and os all before. before they went out. because they were so scared that it wouldn't be accepted. >> by the way, it wasn't accepted. it was wildly boycotted. it is boycotted that it lost money, and abc kept it on the air. >> yup. then we caved. >> yup. >> this is my question. you've already named one or i think two organizations that have within them conservative be they screen writers or whatever they are. and why is it -- and i know of a couple -- i've heard of a couple of others why is that that they can't all come together and say, look, we're going to have an out of the closet tsunami here.