wonderful scottish mentor of douglas who was with john vancouver's voice and told douglas look for the latin name, the common name is douglas. i would argue that the path that i've been on in studying them is on, he's just a visitor and he's getting into this really amazing world, landscape that pcs as amazing and the people who helped him understand, the tribal people, they work us a lot more about the tree the naming some after guy from england. so the naming part is interesting, especially when he sends it back assessors will be a beautiful ornamental trick or meat make sure to put a lower chinook word for that tree. that's a valuable thing. if you're a lower chinook person or a woman simply consumers and has a tribal name for it that you still use, that's a very