and then on the meeting with governor perry, valerie jarrett in her letter -- and by the way, why was this letter, this invitation coming from valerie jarrett? >> well, as you know, valerie has spent a lot of time maintaining our relationships here in the white house with governors across the country, so she was the one who responded -- >> thank you for your concern about the urgent humanitarian concern in the rio grande valley. obviously, the concern governor perry has been expressing has been some very harsh criticism of this president and even suggesting last week that there could even be a conspiracy, that somehow the president and this administration was in on the flow of children over the borders. either ineptitude or something else. and he said -- so i'm just wondering what exactly do you, i mean, what's the president's message going to be to governor perry? governor perry has blamed this problem directly on the president and even suggested that the president wanted to...