marriage equality. mr. olson did you surprise a lot of people with your position on marriage? >> apparently i did. i didn't surprise me and it didn't surprise people who knew me because i grew up in california. i feel it's wrong and i have always felt it's wrong to discriminate against people. when i was first asked to take this case i thought it was something i could do and that i wanted to do. so i was a little surprised that people were surprised because i am a conservative and a lot of people were and i felt it was my mission to try to convince as many of them as i could that this was the right place to be. >> host: what's the conservative case for marriage? >> guest: the conservative case is easy. these are two loving people who want to come together in an enduring relationship and form a part of the community and have a family and be a part of our society and to live together.