members of congress and unthankful approaching this issue not just from the perspective of security but also from the perspective of the importance of civil society has along the border >> brian everyone here has talked about metrics and measures. why is this so important? and if you can come in a little bit we had been counting input for a long time. how do we get from here to they're? >> it is important because as the secretary mentioned we had a comprehensive immigration reform carried out in 1986. the immigration reform control act. and it took us a long time. the administration tried to carry out reform. take as well over 20 years in the time that illegal immigration became politically controversial to