chicago, baltimore, where i did any study, camden, new jersey, you have to be mindful of the community benefits granted to a community but not granted to the individuals, and whether we look at our -- i'll call out my own institution, johns hopkins or any university who is and -- core institution you have to hold them -- if you're rooted in community and making millions off of a community then it is your -- you have to -- it's incumbent upon you to make sure that individuals in the community benefit the most, not just you or your students. so i'm glad to have you have a community benefits conversation going on it and hope it leads to something else'ds prom -- besides proking promises. >> when we talk about transformational work we look at that almost separate from when people say i want to have a seat at the table. that's a cute thing.