being gone, traveling for two years. does the white house affect a. i said, i think it could i don't i don't think it didn't affect ours. um because we just been partners working together for so long. um, but because, and, and i could see if, if, if the first lady was not particular interested in the different issues, i think it would be very difficult. but jimmy could talk to me about all of it and i think it happens that way more and more with first ladies because it's some of the early first ladies were very active, but then the others that were not. and when you look back at previous first ladies before you served, who did you admire? who did you emulate? who did you learn from. well, the closest person i had the closest and the only first lady that had knowledge of was lady bird.