oppenheimer was not one to suffer fools. he thought that straws' position in this was foolish and straws was a fool. so oppenheimer who was certainly arrogant, simply made fun of straws in the congressional hearing. and straws never forgot or forgave oppenheimer for that. but as well as straws, of course, is a primary force behind the lobby for the h bomb. as the chairman of the gac or the aec. so they came to opposition. straws was the chief figure behind the hearing. it really was his engineering of the hearing that caused it to take place. the hearing, too, was unlike a trial. it's a closed -- actually a secret administrative procedure. it is called a personnel security board hearing that unlike a trial, you're not allowed to confront your accuser. it takes place in, as i say, in secret. the usual rules of evidence do not apply. there is no appeal except to the

there is only one person approached and that is robert oppenheimer. they interview oppenheimer and he now says well, yes, the story i gave back in august of 1943 to pash and was a fabrication. the true story is only that i was involved and i didn't cooperate. that incident, both versions incident. slide, please. u.s. government saying that you could not open a door without finding robert oppenheimer behind it.