the role in the e.u., the nature of its defense forces and in n.a.t.o. even if it's not a yes, there is a question mark over the nature of power throughout the united kingdom, not just here in scotland but elsewhere. this turned into a referendum on power, on the whole political establishment. part of the reason this has run away with itself, this campaign, this sense that the westminster establishment simply did not predict what was going to take place in the last few weeks has been because it's been a verdict in part on them. >> nick, we'll have more later, and sarah, too. we'll be talking to our guests who have joined us. i should point out one thing which is rather important. if you're waiting for an exit pole, well, there's no easy way to say this. you're not going to get one. this is a unique event, it's a one off. we don't believe there's a tried and tested method for doing an