and you already knew it and said shazam you got it too. seems highly unlikely don't you think? >> we do a lot of research before we decide what tools we will buy for our network? >> at that point you had not removed the system from your system? you knew it was there and you brought them in and their system found it too which means it was continuously running and the personnel information was still at risk? >> no, we had latent malware on our system that we were watching and quarantined. >> so it was no longer operating? >> that's correct. >> okay. clearly you are going to have to give us an additional briefing and the intel committee staff exactly how you did this because sigh tech is relating what they did and it's compelling and quite frankly what you say sounds highly suspicious, that you brought them in and tricked them to see if they could discover it, something you already discovered it, and why would you need them