7:00, texas general land office commissioner george bush, jose menendez, and musician phil collins talk about the spanish mission, the alamo, at the 2016 texas tribune festival in austin. >> the memories i have of that time was that this group of people were going and they knew they were going to die but they went. or they were there. they kind of -- they were something noble, very romantic. i have learned it wasn't quite as black and white. that's one of the things i think would be good in this day and age. we put it into context. >> sunday evening at 6:00 on american artifacts -- >> macarthur is upfront and he is not wearing a weapon. he often led attacks with nothing but the riding crop. and the men look at this and realized the kernel -- colonel, if he can take it, i can take it