when you look at the data we're undertaxed yet people don't feel that. >> people -- >> federally. >> people are thinking individually and i don't think they necessarily differentiate between a local state and a state tax and federal tax. they know theyould be better off in general. when you're unploith employed or underemployed, the idea that you're undertaxed is not going to go very far. and i don't think people necessarily have a good idea. they know what they're doing and that's how they're going to react. >> you look at your stub and it says, well, this is what i was paid and this is what i'm taking home. now, somebody just took a whole lot of my money. local, state, federal, it doesn't matter. someone just took money out of my pocket and i'm mad about it. that's what's really going on. >> federal tax, you can sort of say where we're at? are americans taxed enough? taxed too much? taxed about right? >> i would like to see a consumption tax or a flat tax. i thk -- >> to replace the...