do not want to to be doing. maybe we need a committee that takes a look at the liberty on individuals as opposed to the security for the good of the whole. i think that is a real dialogue we should have. host: democratic line, wilbur. caller: i did a lot of catering

of america and i think of all of the amendments, all of the protections. i particularly think of amendment number 4, which says that no one is going to be eavesdropping on me. we have laws right now that say that they can. host: congressman loretta sanchez, a democrat from california, her sister also serves in the house. what about a committee?

guest: what we learned in there is significantly more than what is in the media today. i cannot speak to what we learned in there. and i do know know if there are more leaks, war information's somewhere, if someone else is going to step up.

we cannot speak about it. there has to be a monumental change. this process, as representatives of america's people not only to see the policy but to see the money. "we are still investigating and we know nothing right now."

is in the media today. i cannot speak to what we learned in there. and i do know know if there are more leaks, war information's somewhere, if someone else is going to step up. but i will tell you that i believe it is just the tip of the iceberg. but again, all of these things were legal. host: can you categorize this type of information? you know more than what is in the public. is it worse than what the public knows now? guest: i do not know about worse, but it is accumulating. it is broader than most people realize. host: you suspect that they told you this because this is the type of information that could be leaked out? guest: i do not know who leaks, but again i want to caution everyone, these programs are